1st corinthians 15 12-17. but if it is preached that christ has been raised from the dead, how can some of you say that there is no resurrection of the dead?
if there is no resurrection of the dead, then not even christ has been raised.
and if christ has not been raised, your faith is futile... .
The problem with atheist sceptics, I often find, is they are simply not sceptical enough.
Sounds like skepticism is a good thing now!!!! Go figure.
I guess we should accept the existence of invisible and mute beings (gods, angels, demons) and miracles without questioning, but our skepticism about physical phenomena that is subjected to the rigorous testing of the scientific method is never enough. Got it
1st corinthians 15 12-17. but if it is preached that christ has been raised from the dead, how can some of you say that there is no resurrection of the dead?
if there is no resurrection of the dead, then not even christ has been raised.
and if christ has not been raised, your faith is futile... .
God? we don't know, his awfully quiet and all the descriptions of god defended and promoted by all religions don't pass the smell test in the 21st century. Therefore we put Him in the category of ????????, and with a great degree of certainty we can say that if he exists is not well described by any of the main religions, especially the "loving and forgiving" ***hole in the bible.
Resurrection?. Best known resurrection happened 2000 years ago and the guy promised to come back shortly after his ascension to heaven. If there ever was obvious BS, this qualifies. Two problem
1. goes to heaven...yeah right
2. never came back.
my ex-wife actually opened up to me today over the phone.
she was quite anxious and, i could sense, i little upset.
for those that dont know my situation im separated from my wife.
But this site seeks to infantalize posters and marinade them in victimization.
DJS
If you are in the U.S., are you Dr. Laura?
It's been a long time since I enjoyed her tough style.
i am new to this site, was always told by my elder father if the site accidentally appeared on the comp screen it was satans doing.
anyways, i am 28 y/m who had the unfortunate life of being the last of three kids to be born ins.
my oldest sibling lasted about 8 years before she was d,f.
I'm so sick of hearing like this is some kind of JW thing. This is a being a stern parent thing
It's both, a JW thing and a stern parent; it's a stern parent who is encouraged to be a complete a--hole by "Jehovah". The combination never bodes well for children with a independent mind.
i ask the above because of my personal experience.
as a born-in i was naive, socially inept and had never really thought deeply about anything.. i was also unable to accept arguments based upon reason and facts.. just like a child.. it was only after freeing myself from the mind-control of the jw cult that i educated myself and matured as a person to being (almost) an adult.. jw's attitudes and their inability to debate in any meaningful way, (they could start by actually listening),means they have not grown up..
Yes, they do grow up. They turn into ex-JWs
my ex-wife actually opened up to me today over the phone.
she was quite anxious and, i could sense, i little upset.
for those that dont know my situation im separated from my wife.
Pale emperor,
Whatever you do, proceed with caution, your ex is not to be trusted. Nothing wrong with her good intentions. It's her ability to remain steadfast and resolute that has me concerned. She has proven before to be unreliable. However, she may sincerely be crying for help, and you are the only one that can offer that. I truly feel sorry for her, she is trapped and lacks the strength and the means to solve her own problems. Play hero if it's in your heart to do so, just proceed very slowly.
my ex-wife actually opened up to me today over the phone.
she was quite anxious and, i could sense, i little upset.
for those that dont know my situation im separated from my wife.
From all this, the happiest news is that your daughter's chances to grow up in a healthy environment just got a lot better.
seen a few discussions asking if the wts are hurting for $$ or still sitting on a mountain of gold.. regardless of their child abuse legal fees and ongoing broadcasting for more dough, i believe they have piles and piles of cash.. talked with a diff'd accountant who sat in the accounting dept.
at the conventions for years.. a football stadium (or the like) costs them about $70 - 90,000 to rent for a 3 day dub show.
they take in $400,000 in donations from the r&f.
They reached their peak. The may even be at their peak right now. However, from here on is downhill all the way, membership and finances. The only thing to speculate about is how long this is going to last.
i began my exit from the jehovah’s witness organization about 5 years.
i was a 4th generation born-in, with all the baggage that comes with having the “spiritual heritage” attached to the group.
i was an elder/bethelite/pioneer/whatever other useless privilege there was, i had no family or friends outside of the organization… my entire life was that org.
Welcome Paul,
Best experience I have read in a while. The best to you, your family and especially your Dad. Tell your Dad that he has plenty of backbone, the backbone that is needed to sacrifice himself for the sake of others. He loves your family too much to go rogue and independent.
finally, i will look at biblical and patristic evidence bearing on the crucifixion of jesus in particular.
we need to examine the earliest known descriptions of the kind of crucifixion adopted by the romans and the specific terms they used to refer to it.
apparently the society believes that crux still meant "stake" in the second century a.d., when tacitus composed his annals.
Is the OP the longest post on the forum?
It may be the longest post, but every word is needed and counts to produce a masterpiece of scholarship. It's the antithesis of Watchtower writing
